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Post  Crusta on Thu Dec 18, 2014 1:15 am

Please is there a way so i can use HQ2x again with 5.1? It was the best way i played the game. Why did it had to be completely removed? If it was slown for some players like the changelog says, they could simply switch to another mode. Why the need of completely removing it? 2x scale looks way worse

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Re: Streets of Rage Remake v5.1 Discussion Thread

Post  Reinhart on Thu Dec 18, 2014 3:00 pm

Crusta wrote:Please is there a way so i can use HQ2x again with 5.1? It was the best way i played the game. Why did it had to be completely removed? If it was slown for some players like the changelog says, they could simply switch to another mode. Why the need of completely removing it? 2x scale looks way worse

As far as I know there's no way to use HQ2x in V5.1, but now the "normal" rendering doesn't look pixelated anymore, it looks interpolated (similarly to emulators). Have you tried that? It's very good, much better than HQ2x in my opinion.

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Re: Streets of Rage Remake v5.1 Discussion Thread

Post  bazzza on Thu Dec 18, 2014 5:05 pm

Crusta wrote:Please is there a way so i can use HQ2x again with 5.1? It was the best way i played the game. Why did it had to be completely removed? If it was slown for some players like the changelog says, they could simply switch to another mode. Why the need of completely removing it? 2x scale looks way worse

Yes I was wondering why they took that option away, 2x normal still does not look very good nor does scale x2 look very good. I was hoping they would add HQX4 to make it look even better.

P.S how do you open up the A.I editor thank you in advance.
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Re: Streets of Rage Remake v5.1 Discussion Thread

Post  Crusta on Fri Dec 19, 2014 12:54 pm

Reinhart wrote:
Crusta wrote:Please is there a way so i can use HQ2x again with 5.1? It was the best way i played the game. Why did it had to be completely removed? If it was slown for some players like the changelog says, they could simply switch to another mode. Why the need of completely removing it? 2x scale looks way worse

As far as I know there's no way to use HQ2x in V5.1, but now the "normal" rendering doesn't look pixelated anymore, it looks interpolated (similarly to emulators). Have you tried that? It's very good, much better than HQ2x in my opinion.

"Normal" rendering displays in a tiny screen even in Fullscreen mode:

http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/19/09/01/08/sorrv511.png

Yeah i really don't understand the need of completely removing HQ2x


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Re: Streets of Rage Remake v5.1 Discussion Thread

Post  Reinhart on Fri Dec 19, 2014 1:53 pm

Crusta wrote:"Normal" rendering displays in a tiny screen even in Fullscreen mode:

http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/19/09/01/08/sorrv511.png

Yeah i really don't understand the need of completely removing HQ2x

Mmm, that's weird, it shouldn't display like that. It should display in FULL screen (albeit in 4:3 aspect ratio). It could be something related to the configuration of your videocard, you might try to change some settings there or see if you can create a specific profile of settings to associate to the SORR exe, so that the application is displayed in fullscreen.

EDIT: if changing your videocard settings does nothing, another thing you can try is to hook up your PC screen with a TV via a HDMI cable. If you mirror the PC screen on the TV it will display exactly the same thing as the PC screen, but if you leave only the TV active it SHOULD go fullscreen.

bazzza wrote:P.S how do you open up the A.I editor thank you in advance.

Complete all missions in Event Mode.


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Re: Streets of Rage Remake v5.1 Discussion Thread

Post  bazzza on Fri Dec 19, 2014 5:48 pm

Reinhart wrote:
Crusta wrote:"Normal" rendering displays in a tiny screen even in Fullscreen mode:

http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/19/09/01/08/sorrv511.png

Yeah i really don't understand the need of completely removing HQ2x

Mmm, that's weird, it shouldn't display like that. It should display in FULL screen (albeit in 4:3 aspect ratio). It could be something related to the configuration of your videocard, you might try to change some settings there or see if you can create a specific profile of settings to associate to the SORR exe, so that the application is displayed in fullscreen.

bazzza wrote:P.S how do you open up the A.I editor thank you in advance.

Complete all missions in Event Mode.
I have done that, where does it unlock.
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Re: Streets of Rage Remake v5.1 Discussion Thread

Post  Reinhart on Fri Dec 19, 2014 5:52 pm

bazzza wrote:I have done that, where does it unlock.

Editor -> AI Editor.

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Re: Streets of Rage Remake v5.1 Discussion Thread

Post  bazzza on Fri Dec 19, 2014 8:47 pm

Reinhart wrote:
bazzza wrote:I have done that, where does it unlock.

Editor -> AI Editor.

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Re: Streets of Rage Remake v5.1 Discussion Thread

Post  Saven on Fri Dec 19, 2014 10:46 pm

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Re: Streets of Rage Remake v5.1 Discussion Thread

Post  Crusta on Sat Dec 20, 2014 5:21 pm

I have tried everything. My game does not go in fullscreen in Normal mode.Any GPU scaling option in my AMD catalyst panel doesn't work. Please add HQ2x again for 5.1...i don't understand why completely removing it rather than making it an option Neutral

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Re: Streets of Rage Remake v5.1 Discussion Thread

Post  Charco on Sat Dec 20, 2014 5:44 pm

Vsync on or off? Also, not sure who you are asking to add features, nobody here coded the game so....

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Re: Streets of Rage Remake v5.1 Discussion Thread

Post  bazzza on Sun Dec 21, 2014 12:44 am

Crusta wrote:I have tried everything. My game does not go in fullscreen in Normal mode.Any GPU scaling option in my AMD catalyst panel doesn't work. Please add HQ2x again for 5.1...i don't understand why completely removing it rather than making it an option Neutral

You have to use 2x normal to make the game go full screen. Standard Normal will not work. Does V-SYNCH even work on this game.
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Re: Streets of Rage Remake v5.1 Discussion Thread

Post  Charco on Sun Dec 21, 2014 12:50 am

Of course it does.

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Re: Streets of Rage Remake v5.1 Discussion Thread

Post  bazzza on Sun Dec 21, 2014 11:52 am

Charco wrote:Of course it does.

I just never seen any difference with with it on or off.
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Re: Streets of Rage Remake v5.1 Discussion Thread

Post  Crusta on Sun Dec 21, 2014 2:08 pm

Strangely enough V-sync doesn't work for me anymore as well. When i first played this game i was on Windows XP with weaker hardware. V-sync + HQ2x worked flawlessly and smooth on fullscreen. Now years later after i upgraded my whole system, both of them doesn't work no matter what i do (i know the correlation with this doesn't make sense...but it is really what i'm experiencing).

I don't mind the tearing, but the pixelation at 2x scale is really bad, and Scanlines are too much. Well, thanks for the help guys! Guess i'll have to live with it.

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Post  Charco on Sun Dec 21, 2014 4:59 pm

I get no screen tearing once I turn it on.

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Re: Streets of Rage Remake v5.1 Discussion Thread

Post  Tarma on Tue Dec 23, 2014 3:22 pm

Did anybody managed to use the unlocking feature for SoRMaker?...
I cannot upload my mod till the problem is not solved.
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Post  Don Vecta on Tue Dec 23, 2014 3:48 pm

Tarma wrote:Did anybody managed to use the unlocking feature for SoRMaker?...
I cannot upload my mod till the problem is not solved.
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I'm sorry, I haven't tried that feature either. Otherwise, I'd tried to help.

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Re: Streets of Rage Remake v5.1 Discussion Thread

Post  Rocketeer Raccoon on Tue Dec 23, 2014 9:32 pm

I can't do the challenges to get the AI Editor, they are too difficult to do. One of which is to try and make the Robot X have his rocket missile hit him but it always gets me, I clearly don't know how you do it.
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Re: Streets of Rage Remake v5.1 Discussion Thread

Post  DarkThief on Tue Dec 23, 2014 11:13 pm

Rocketeer Raccoon wrote:I can't do the challenges to get the AI Editor, they are too difficult to do. One of which is to try and make the Robot X have his rocket missile hit him but it always gets me, I clearly don't know how you do it.

You don't need to do all the event mode stuff...I never completed the biker one but I do have the other two criteria for unlocking:

bugtrack wrote:161. Added AI editor, to unlock you have to complete all missions in events mode or boss rush with all gold medals or S ranking in all Survival rounds.
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Post  Rocketeer Raccoon on Wed Dec 24, 2014 12:23 am

bugtrack wrote:161. Added AI editor, to unlock you have to complete all missions in events mode or boss rush with all gold medals or S ranking in all Survival rounds.

Boss Rush ain't easy either, you have very limited health items and guns and many of the bosses are very hard to beat such as the Abadede, always charging at you and do suplex on you if they get close to you. Sad


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Re: Streets of Rage Remake v5.1 Discussion Thread

Post  BigDarsh on Wed Dec 24, 2014 10:09 am

I think this was a mistake of game design. The reward (AI editor) does not match the public who will do the challenge. Sure people who are very good at the game will be pleased to receive something from the game designer to tell them they play well (and that's the good point) but the AI editor is a feature which can be used by many people including those who are not "top players".

It's like bombergame tell "you trash don't deserve to play with the AI editor". I know it's not the intention behind this locking and that's why it is a mistake of game design.

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Obviously, the people who make this patch don't even think to how this reward will be frustrating for people. They assume that everyone play well enough to get S rank on survival or such. That's why I don't blame them, it is just a mistake, and everyone make mistake.

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Post  Reinhart on Wed Dec 24, 2014 1:04 pm

Rocketeer Raccoon wrote:Boss Rush ain't easy either, you have very limited health items and guns and many of the bosses are very hard to beat such as the Abadede, always charging at you and do suplex on you if they get close to you. Sad

There's a trick you can use against some bosses (the ones that you can grab easily): grab them, pummel them two times, vault over them, vault again and then quickly regrab them. Rinse, repeat. This works best as Shiva, because he can pummel enemies three times instead of two.

For Abadede and in general for bosses that are not easily grabbed, it's best to use characters with either a strong one-hit offensive special or very good jumping attacks. There are two characters that have both features: Shiva (both SOR2 and SOR3) and Blaze (SOR1 and SOR2, but not SOR3).

For Abadede in particular, stay away from him and let him run at you. When he's about to strike, hit him with the offensive special or, if you haven't sufficient stock, a flying kick. Also, if you play as Shiva, his combo has enough range let you hit Abadede while remaining out of the reach of his defensive special.


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Post  Rocketeer Raccoon on Wed Dec 24, 2014 8:15 pm

Reinhart wrote:
Rocketeer Raccoon wrote:Boss Rush ain't easy either, you have very limited health items and guns and many of the bosses are very hard to beat such as the Abadede, always charging at you and do suplex on you if they get close to you. Sad

There's a trick you can use against some bosses (the ones that you can grab easily): grab them, pummel them two times, vault over them, vault again and then quickly regrab them. Rinse, repeat. This works best as Shiva, because he can pummel enemies three times instead of two.

For Abadede and in general for bosses that are not easily grabbed, it's best to use characters with either a strong one-hit offensive special or very good jumping attacks. There are two characters that have both features: Shiva (both SOR2 and SOR3) and Blaze (SOR1 and SOR2, but not SOR3).

For Abadede in particular, stay away from him and let him run at you. When he's about to strike, hit him with the offensive special or, if you haven't sufficient stock, a flying kick. Also, if you play as Shiva, his combo has enough range let you hit Abadede while remaining out of the reach of his defensive special.


Hurray, I've finally did it, seems that the best character to use for Boss Rush is indeed Shiva, his defensive special does a lot of damage. So yeah, Boss Rush is the better method of getting the AI Editor unlocked.
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Post  DarkThief on Wed Dec 24, 2014 11:14 pm

Reinhart wrote:There's a trick you can use against some bosses (the ones that you can grab easily): grab them, pummel them two times, vault over them, vault again and then quickly regrab them. Rinse, repeat. This works best as Shiva, because he can pummel enemies three times instead of two.

Pretty sure all bosses are immune to that now, only some mooks still are.
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